[MITgcm-support] [EXTERNAL] Warm start and cold start yielding same results

Dimitris Menemenlis menemenlis at jpl.nasa.gov
Tue Oct 19 14:17:41 EDT 2021


Just for fun, this cold/warm start exercise is one of the very first study that I carried out using the MITgcm:
https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/atot/14/6/1520-0426_1997_014_1420_loaogc_2_0_co_2.xml <https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/atot/14/6/1520-0426_1997_014_1420_loaogc_2_0_co_2.xml>

Dimitris


> On Oct 19, 2021, at 5:58 AM, Martin Losch <Martin.Losch at awi.de> wrote:
> 
> Kunal,
> 
> basic ocean circulation theory tells us that density gradients drive the flow and that the dominant large scale mode is geostrophic. So it is not surprising that your initial hydrography immediately leads to a geostrophic balance, which is more or less independent of the initial conditions.
> 
> As for obcs balancing, please refer to the documentation. You options do not appear useful for the problem at hand.
> 
> Martin
> 
>> On 12. Oct 2021, at 14:02, kunal madkaiker <kunal.madkaiker02 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear All,
>> 
>> I am trying to setup the physical model in north Indian Ocean in order to study the mesoscale eddies, using warm start as well as cold start.
>> 
>> In warm start, Initial conditions of T,S come from WOA18 and U,V from SODA. Boundary conditions of T,S,U,V are from SODA and ext. forcing from ERA5. 
>> For cold start, setup is same except initial velocities are zero. Timestep is 120s and spatial resolution is ~5km. I am running model for 30 days as of now (doing monthly climatological simulations). Lateral boundary is from west, east and south.
>> 
>> Both the simulations: warm and cold start is yielding the same results in terms of current, temperature etc. and I am not seeing any significant effect of the initial velocities in the warm start simulation. My understanding is that somehow the boundary conditions are nullifying the effect of initial velocities, but I am not understanding why that might happen.
>> 
>> Kindly provide some suggestions. Let me know if anything is wrong from my end.
>> 
>> Also, I would appreciate some help in setting the OBCS balance values. Currently, I am balancing individual boundaries by giving value as -1. The flow pattern in my domain is such that, during summer monsoon (JJAS) water flows from Arabian sea to bay of bengal (west to east) and vice versa during winter monsoon (OND).
>> 
>> Attaching some plots and my namelists. Apologies for the long email.
>> 
>> Thanks and Regards
>> Kunal
>> <Cold_UV.png><Comp_warm_coldstart_SST.png><Warm_UV.png><data><data.exf><data.obcs>_______________________________________________
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