[MITgcm-support] obcs/exf interactions

Tom Haine Thomas.Haine at jhu.edu
Thu Oct 7 15:02:48 EDT 2004


Jinlun, 

Attached are figures of various surface fields, forcing fields, and ice
fields from close to the time Alistair is starting his integrations.
These results are from the old code. 

I guess pkg/exf changes (presumably in the stress computation) might
explain the difference Alistair sees, although I don't know why they
would be concentrated at the ice edge.

Tom.
 

On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 14:32, Jinlun Zhang wrote:
> I am puzzled by the straght line after some time steps. The initial ice
> condition is a straght line, but after a while it should change. Here is my
> guess:
> (1) Ice model might not be excuted so the initial ice edge is kept unchanged.
> Need to look at ice output.
> (2) Different ocean model versions might get surface flux differently over areas
> partially covered by ice (exf to blame?)
> Jinlun
> 
> Tom Haine wrote:
> 
> > Dear Jinlun,
> >
> > I don't know. Alistair's plots are differences between our code (hacked
> > ecco_c50_e29 with 2/2003 pkg/seaice) and the latest HEAD release. The
> > plots he showed are difference plots at (guessing) 300m after a few
> > steps. There is a difference in 300m velocity at the position of the ice
> > edge at that time. My guess is that it persists but I don't know for
> > sure. The ice is moderately thick (about 1m) and dense northwest of the
> > line you see (my ugly attempt to put seaice on the shelf). Elsewhere
> > there is no seaice.
> >
> > Of course, I don't know which velocity field is better (do you have a
> > preference?). But it would be nice to locate the origin of the
> > discrepancy.
> >
> > Tom.
> >
> > On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 13:15, Jinlun Zhang wrote:
> > > Tom,
> > >
> > > OK you are using the LSR solver.  I don't think the solver has been changed
> > > since 2/2003,  only some cosmetic changes. Do you see the ice edge just at
> > > initial 1 or 2 time steps or the ice edge persists?
> > >
> > > JInlun
> > >
> > > Tom Haine wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Jinlun,
> > > >
> > > > We use lsr:
> > > >
> > > >       SEAICEuseLSR = .TRUE.,
> > > >
> > > > in data.seaice. Without this line (i.e., with the adi solver) it doesn't
> > > > work in parallel (following discussion on this list in April this year).
> > > >
> > > > We're using pkg/seaice from around February 2003. I think several of the
> > > > key routines have been updated since then. Can this account for the
> > > > velocity differences Alistair sees?
> > > >
> > > > Tom.
> > >
> 
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