[MITgcm-support] Thermodynamical sea ice growth and brine production

[Gael Forget]

I fogot to mentioned : in that matlab I referred to code, SIheff denotes the 
tendency in SIheff and SALT the tendency in the vertically integrated SALT.
The pkg/diagnostics setup to output fluxes along with the corresponding
snapshots (used to compute the tendency terms) is @ 
http://mitgcm.org/viewvc/MITgcm/MITgcm_contrib/gael/verification/global_oce_llc90/input/data.diagnostics?revision=1.1&view=markup

Cheers,
Gael
 
On Apr 30, 2013, at 9:53 AM, Gael Forget wrote:

> Hi Polona and Martin,
> you could look into the budget code I use (with rstar) for ecco @ 
> http://mitgcm.org/viewvc/MITgcm/MITgcm_contrib/gael/matlab_class/gcmfaces_diags/diags_set_D.m?revision=1.4&view=markup
> The salt budget is lines 210-232. Did that help?
> Gael
> 
> 
> On Apr 30, 2013, at 8:39 AM, Martin Losch wrote:
> 
>> Polona, I guess you wanted to say that you use the NON-linear free surface, where we (Polona and I) expect that the only salt input is through restoring, but  we see that the diagnostics imply an additional term that we don't understand.
>> 
>> Martin
>> On Apr 30, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Polona Itkin <Polona.Itkin at awi.de> wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear mailing list,
>>> 
>>> I m interested in the polynya sea ice production. I d need something like thermodynamical sea ice growth to estimate the volume/winter. I ve found the following diagnostics: 
>>>  277 |SIdHbOCN|  1 |       |SM      M1|m/s             |HEFF rate of change by ocean ice flux
>>>  280 |SIdHbATC|  1 |       |SM      M1|m/s             |HEFF rate of change by atm flux over sea ice
>>>  281 |SIdHbATO|  1 |       |SM      M1|m/s             |HEFF rate of change by open ocn atm flux
>>>  282 |SIdHbFLO|  1 |       |SM      M1|m/s             |HEFF rate of change by flooding snow
>>> If i sum up all of them i think i ll get what i want.
>>> 
>>> Then i m also interested into the amount of salt that is rejected to the ocean during the sea ice thermodynamical growth. I m using free linear surface and rstar, so technically that would be converting the thermodynamical growth to the freshwater flux. The volume of water from which sea ice is formed is removed from the ocean and the remaining ocean volume has more salt/volume.
>>> 
>>> There is already a diagnostic called 
>>> 266 |SIempmr |  1 |       |SM      U1|kg/m^2/s        |Ocean surface freshwater flux, > 0 increases salt
>>> and i could use it as some sort of estimate (or checkup) - because it also contains river runoff and evaporation (none of which takes much part in my region/period of interest). But in seaice_growth.F only SIdHbOCN SIdHbATO go to the precipitation. Why not also the other two (SIdHbATO and SIdHbFLO)? Maybe i ve missed something.
>>> 
>>> Further more there are:
>>>   90 |SRELAX  |  1 |       |SM      U1|g/m^2/s         |surface salinity relaxation, >0 increases salt
>>> and
>>>   94 |SFLUX   |  1 |       |SM      U1|g/m^2/s         |total salt flux (match salt-content variations), >0 increases salt
>>> Which should be the same, but are not. Is there any other ocean surface salt flux, but restoring?
>>> I need to take the restoring term into account to see what kind of salt flux/fw flux effect the polynya has.
>>> 
>>> Thank you for your answers!
>>> 
>>> Cheers, Polona
>>> 
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