[MITgcm-support] oscillating mean flow

q li qliuri at yahoo.com
Thu Jun 10 12:42:09 EDT 2010


Hi Mark,

My suggestion is to set up a rigid lid upper boundary condition. In this way, the barotropic adjustment is avoid. It should not affact your internal wave generation.

Li




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From: Klymak Jody <jklymak at uvic.ca>
To: mitgcm-support at mitgcm.org
Sent: Thu, June 10, 2010 11:53:14 AM
Subject: Re: [MITgcm-support] oscillating mean flow

Hi Mark,

On 10-Jun-10, at 8:33 AM, Mark Inall wrote:

> Jody, I tried adding a constant mean flow at the boundaries. This worked fine with f=0: the non-zero U BCs propagated into the domain at the barotropic phase speed. But with rotation, the imposed U-momentum wants to rotate, and then there's a mismatch between the N and S boundaries (at least that's what I think happens) ... that's why I wondered about imposing a cross slice pressure gradient (or moving to a channel with walls) - but I'm not sure how to do that ....

Oh yeah, you are right!  Shouldn't post before coffee...

If your proscribed boundary flow is U_o, then you'd get high in the west and low in the east and a southward BT flow.  An eastward bottom Ekman layer would allow a steady state and the model is behaving as it should.  However, you wouldn't have a mean eastward flow in the interior.

I haven't played with it too much, but you should be able to set up a body force to mimic a N/S pressure gradient in the interior that would set up a eastward mean flow.  Might be hard to match with your E/W boundaries though.  I think it can be done in external_forcing.F where you would modify gV in your case.  There maybe a better way to do it, and to be honest I'm not sure of the units, but I think the docs explain it.

Anyways, thats what I'd do.  A steady gV to the north will give you an eastwards geostrophically balanced flow.  Cheaper than making a channel, but thats your other alternative.

Cheers,  Jody







> 
> Mark.
> 
>>>> Samar Khatiwala <spk at ldeo.columbia.edu> 10 June 2010 16:00 >>>
> Hi Mark,
> 
> Yes, this has been done many times, for e.g., see here: http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/~spk/Papers/KhatiwalaInternalTidesDSR03.pdf
> 
> This is a bit dated, but I know others have implemented it in more recent versions of the code.
> 
> Samar
> 
> On Jun 10, 2010, at 10:16 AM, Mark Inall wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Does anyone have experience with setting up an oscillating mean flow - either in 2D or in a narrow channel - with rotation?
>> 
>> Presently I'm running an oscillating flow over a bump based on the internal wave verification setup, and I want to add a mean flow - is the best way to impose a barotropic pressure gradient across the section and wait for a geostrophic balance??
>> 
>> Any thoughts/help much appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Mark.
>> 
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