Hi Ed, I could always ssh to mitgcm.org but cvs login didn't return before lunch but does now. Not sure what the story is/was but it *is* now working. A. -- Dr Alistair Adcroft http://www.mit.edu/~adcroft MIT Climate Modeling Initiative tel: (617) 253-5938 EAPS 54-1624, 77 Massachusetts Ave, Cambridge, MA, USA