[MITgcm-devel] sea ice clean up this week

Ian Fenty ifenty at MIT.EDU
Wed Feb 8 14:54:31 EST 2012


Gael,

On Feb 8, 2012, at 7:56 AM, Gael Forget wrote:
>> 
> Assuming that 1D_ocean_ice_column is suited to detect relevant adjoint changes,
> there was none beyond truncation level in fwd or ad mode.

I am of the view that adjoint verification experiments running over 10 time steps are not well suited to detect many adjoint changes.  Fortunately, for the 1D column I have designed adjoint experiments of 1+ years which I will run to evaluate the code following your reorganization.

> So I feel relatively
> confident about that, altough the fact that 1D_ocean_ice_column apparently 
> never had very close gradient checks worries me a little.

On the contrary, the 1D_ocean_ice_column gives absolutely beautiful gradient checks, provided that during the first few time steps there isn't some major nonlinear event not captured by the adjoint (e.g., KPP-induced overturning in the upper few grid cells) and that the f.d. perturbations can communicate with the surface over the experiment time.   Presently, the 1D column verification experiment is initialized with an unstable stratification which is acted upon by KPP within the first few time steps, hence the confusion over the gradient checks.  

This topic was discussed on devel this past October.  You can find a link to the original post by Patrick here:

http://mitgcm.org/pipermail/mitgcm-devel/2011-October/004997.html

And my response here:

http://mitgcm.org/pipermail/mitgcm-devel/2011-October/005010.html  

Given the confusion about the experiment, I will modify the initial stratification such that good agreement with the gradient tests is more obvious.

-Ian




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