[MITgcm-devel] depressed Eta and sIceLoad

Patrick Heimbach heimbach at MIT.EDU
Tue Oct 24 09:31:35 EDT 2006


Martin, DImitris,

re. EVAP, 
the ECCO runs now with sea-ice
show surprising large near-surf. salinity misfits
in the SO, following seasonal ice cycle
and pronounced in Weddell Sea.
So this is very consistent with Martin's finding.
Maybe time to check in the fix?
Don't think we have snow problems though
(although haven't diagnosed anything yet,
but SSH drift with realFreshWater stays bounded).

-p.



On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 08:20, Martin Losch wrote:
> Dimitris,
> I really think that this will also get rid of your problems in the  
> Weddell Sea. As far as I remember you had the problem of too much  
> convection, erorsion of stratification and consequently too little  
> seaice towards the end of your 10-12year integration. It appears to  
> me that EVAP is the culprit, not KPP or missing shelfice water. With  
> this bug I had -1.9 all the way to the bottom around Antarctic  
> already after 10-20years. After correction of the bug, the  
> stratification remains stable for 100year (I haven't run it any  
> longer), without any restoring SST/SSS to Levitus.
> 
> I still have a problem with seaice though, and that's the snow. Far  
> too much snow (100m) that even remains, when the seaice is gone in  
> summer. I use all the default parameters.
> Is it a problem that snow is not advected along with ice?
> One could think of a simple flooding algorithm that converts  
> submerged snow into ice:
>            hDraft = (HSNOW(I,J,bi,bj)*330. _d 0
>       &             +HEFF(I,J,1,bi,bj)*SEAICE_rhoIce)/1000. _d 0
>            hFlood = hDraft - MIN(hDraft,HEFF(I,J,1,bi,bj))
>            HEFF(I,J,1,bi,bj) = HEFF(I,J,1,bi,bj) + hFlood
>            HSNOW(I,J,bi,bj) = MAX(0. _d 0,HSNOW(I,J,bi,bj)-hFlood/SDF)
> 
> 
> Martin
> On 23 Oct 2006, at 18:50, Dimitris Menemenlis wrote:
> 
> > Martin, that's brilliant!  EVAP, as it is computed right now,  
> > should definitely be weighted by (ONE-AREA(I,J,2,bi,bj)), that is,  
> > set to zero under sea ice.  I agree, I think this is a bug.  Can't  
> > wait to give it a try in the 18-km cube. Cheers, Dimitris
> >
> > -- 
> > Dimitris Menemenlis <menemenlis at jpl.nasa.gov>
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