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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Dimitris, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Great to know the details of pkg/frazil. I missed it at first sight since it was not included in the user manual.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you and Dan for pointing it out. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Yilang <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">MITgcm-support <mitgcm-support-bounces@mitgcm.org> on behalf of "Menemenlis, Dimitris (US 329B)" <dimitris.menemenlis@jpl.nasa.gov><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>"mitgcm-support@mitgcm.org" <mitgcm-support@mitgcm.org><br>
<b>Date: </b>Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 22:12:54<br>
<b>To: </b>MITgcm Support <mitgcm-support@mitgcm.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [MITgcm-support] [EXTERNAL] Question on SHELFICE: ice accretion under ice shelf<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dan and Yilang, there is a description of pkg/frazil here: <o:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FMITgcm%2FMITgcm%2Fblob%2Fmaster%2Fpkg%2Ffrazil%2Ffrazil_description.tex&data=05%7C01%7Cyxu%40whoi.edu%7C287a932ef1894444c94f08da4761f362%7Cd44c5cc6d18c46cc8abd4fdf5b6e5944%7C0%7C0%7C637900783742881728%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=mGpy07Icg4BaqlySh08eKQxFD1CpuCaXkAeylCC8wsw%3D&reserved=0">https://github.com/MITgcm/MITgcm/blob/master/pkg/frazil/frazil_description.tex</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Although the package makes a lot of simplifying assumptions, it will, to first order,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">represent frazil ice formation and accretion beneath sea ice and ice shelves.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers, Dimitris<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Jun 5, 2022, at 9:47 AM, Yilang Xu <<a href="mailto:yxu@whoi.edu">yxu@whoi.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
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Hi Dan,<br>
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Yes there is no linkage between shelfice and frazil. I may look into frazil pkg and check its details.<br>
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Yilang<br>
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From: MITgcm-support <<a href="mailto:mitgcm-support-bounces@mitgcm.org">mitgcm-support-bounces@mitgcm.org</a>> on behalf of GOLDBERG Daniel <<a href="mailto:Dan.Goldberg@ed.ac.uk">Dan.Goldberg@ed.ac.uk</a>><br>
Reply-To: "<a href="mailto:mitgcm-support@mitgcm.org">mitgcm-support@mitgcm.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:mitgcm-support@mitgcm.org">mitgcm-support@mitgcm.org</a>><br>
Date: Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 11:52:05<br>
To: "<a href="mailto:mitgcm-support@mitgcm.org">mitgcm-support@mitgcm.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:mitgcm-support@mitgcm.org">mitgcm-support@mitgcm.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [MITgcm-support] [EXTERNAL] Question on SHELFICE: ice accretion under ice shelf<br>
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Just to add that there is a “frazil” package but I’m unsure what it does; and I do not believe it currently interfaces with pkg/shelfice.<br>
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Dan<br>
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Sent from my iPhone<br>
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On Jun 5, 2022, at 4:45 PM, GOLDBERG Daniel <<a href="mailto:Dan.Goldberg@ed.ac.uk">Dan.Goldberg@ed.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
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Hi yilang<br>
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If your question is whether MITgcm represents frazil ice formation and accretion, I do not believe that it does.<br>
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Dan<br>
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Sent from my iPhone<br>
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On Jun 5, 2022, at 3:57 PM, Menemenlis, Dimitris (US 329B) <<a href="mailto:dimitris.menemenlis@jpl.nasa.gov">dimitris.menemenlis@jpl.nasa.gov</a>> wrote:<br>
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This email was sent to you by someone outside the University.<br>
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Take a look at<br>
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On Jun 3, 2022, at 2:52 PM, Yilang Xu <yxu@whoi.edu> wrote:<br>
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Dear MITgcm users, <br>
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I have a question on the capability of SHELFICE package. Does the SHELFICE code have the capability to consider refreezing (ice accretion) in the ice shelf cavity or could it be modified to include that? I was looking at some paper on this (e.g., https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2012JC008214) and
wondering if MITgcm can model this process.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
Yilang<br>
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