[MITgcm-support] ECCO in steady-state?

sdownes at princeton.edu sdownes at princeton.edu
Tue Feb 23 20:05:29 EST 2010


Thank you, Gael.

Stephanie



On Tue 23/02/10  7:44 PM , gael forget <gforget at mit.edu> wrote:

> Hi stephanie,
> sorry for the delay in my response. In brief, neither the real ocean
> nor the OCCA model/data synthesis is in true steady state anywhere at
> any time.At most they may be NEAR a steady state for some aspects and
> over some period.
> As explained in Forget 2010 (see link that Chris mentioned) OCCA is
> an ocean state estimate for the period from 2004 to 2006. The real
> ocean must have changed in some aspects over this period. The
> Eighteen Degree Water volume however (as discussed in Maze et al
> 2009, and Forget et al 2010 that you will find @
> http://paoc.mit.edu/paoc/papers/edw_vol%20(4).pdf [1]) seems to
> oscillate, over thecourse of seasons, around a rather stable point
> over 2004-2006. 
> I hope this helps.  
> Cheers,Gael
> On Feb 17, 2010, at 1:54 PM, Stephanie Downes wrote:
> The paper doesn't explicitly say anything about it being in steady
> state- I will ask Gael.
> Thanks,
> Stephanie
> 
> On Feb 17, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
> Stephanie,
> 
> The model configuration used is discussed here in some detail
> 
> 
> http://ams.allenpress.com/perlserv/?doi=10.1175/2009JPO4043.1&request=get-a
> bstract[2]
> 
> Gael can tell you more.
> 
> Chris
> 
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Stephanie Downes  wrote:
> Hi All,
> Just out of interest, is the 2004-6 ECCO ocean output in steady
> state? There
> is mention of upper ocean being in steady state in Maze et al.
> (2009), but
> nothing is mentioned of the deep ocean.
> 
> Thanks,
> Stephanie
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