[MITgcm-devel] more seaice
Martin Losch
mlosch at awi-bremerhaven.de
Mon Mar 6 15:50:44 EST 2006
Hello Dimitris,
FORCEX/Y at that point are air-ice-stress interactions, the
coefficient ist call DAIRN. The ice-ocean stresses are put in later
after the computation ETA,ZETA,Eij with the coefficent DWATN. So I
think that at this point averaging does not make much sense: It would
mean that the ice is driven both by wind over ice and wind over open
water.
I think in the c-grid version I'll try to do it the way I find it
intuitive: separate wind stress over ocean and ice and compute stress
on ocean as the average of ice-ocean stress and wind stress (on the
ocean). This is how it is done in the various coupled AWI ice models.
Martin
On Mar 6, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Dimitris Menemenlis wrote:
>> The way I understand this is that the stress on the ice is an
>> average over ocean stress and ice stress ( the statement before
>> FORCEX(I,J,bi,bj) = ...), whereas the stress over the ocean is
>> just the ocean stress not weighted at all. I find this a little
>> inconsistent if not wrong. I would think that these
>> terms should be treated separately, with only the ice stress
>> driving the
>> ice, right?
>
> Martin, yes it is inconsistent. As Jinlun mentioned in an earlier
> message, the
> original formulation for ocean stress, the one marked by CPP flag
> SEAICE_ORIGINAL_BAD_ICE_STRESS in ostres.F caused model
> instabilities. As a
> temporary fix, the presence of ice is ignored in the computation of
> ocean
> surface stress, variables WINDX and WINDY.
>
> Regarding ocean stress at bottom of ice, variables FORCEX and
> FORCEY, my understanding is that dynsolver assumes that thin ice
> covers the open ocean everywhere, hence the weighted sum of ice-
> covered and ice-free components in the computation of FORCEX and
> FORCEY. But I do not know whether and why this thin-ice assumption
> is required nor what would be impact of setting the URT/VRT mask to
> zero where AREA=0.
>
> Dimitris
>
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