[MITgcm-devel] Paluszkiewicz plume model parameterization
Martin Losch
mlosch at awi-bremerhaven.de
Fri Feb 10 10:02:14 EST 2006
That's perfectly ok, in fact i am happy that noone really noticed,
because I wanted to get this comparison study going first. But it's
all there (ggl90 is the OPA-"TKE"-scheme).
Martin
On Feb 10, 2006, at 3:58 PM, chris hill wrote:
> oops - sorry I thought you'd only done pacanowski and philander stuff!
>
> Chris
> Martin Losch wrote:
>> Hi Dimitris,
>> I implemented that scheme. The package is called OPPS and in
>> verification/vermix you'll find an example how to use it in a
>> very simple (2D) configuration.
>> HOWEVER:
>> 1. I just plugged in the "original" routine, that Ralph (the
>> Timmermann from the paper that Chris attached) gave to me. He got
>> is from Paluszkiewicz, but I couldn't reach her, I guess she
>> left science and is now in science administration? NFS? NOPP?
>> 2. The routine is full of conditional goto's and jumps and is
>> very difficult to read. I was on my list to clean that up, but I
>> haven't got around to it
>> 3. You cannot use OPPS together with any other mixing scheme, just
>> as convective adjustment for which it is supposed to be a
>> replacement. Maybe that should be changed.
>> 4. Have a look at Ralph's paper: OPPS by itself is terrible
>> because it doesn't do anything about wind stirring (just buoyancy
>> driven convection)
>> 5. It is one of my ongoing projects to systematically compare all
>> mixing/convection schemes under controlled conditions
>> (opps,kpp,my82,pp81,ggl90,implicit diffusion,convective
>> adjustment, basically a follow up on Ralph's paper which suffers
>> from the very specific application: They used a tuned model and
>> the result is that the scheme that they used during tuning is the
>> best, not very convincing. However, the main point seems to be
>> more general: in ice- covered regions wind stirring is generally
>> underestimated by the conventional schemes, including kpp I have
>> to say, so that summer mixing layers are too shallow (top layer)
>> and consequently surface temperatures are to high), that's why I
>> implemented them almost 2 years ago.
>> Martin
>> On Feb 10, 2006, at 6:33 AM, chris hill wrote:
>>> Not that I know of.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> PS the attached paper has some interesting discussions on
>>> convection in the southern ocean.
>>> Dimitris Menemenlis wrote:
>>>
>>>> Has anyone implemented Paluszkiewicz plume model
>>>> parameterization in MITgcm. It is supposed to have big
>>>> positive impact on unrealistic winter time open-water
>>>> convection that we see around Antarctica in hi-res model
>>>> simulations. Dimitris
>>>
>>>
>>> <timmerman_beckman.pdf>
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