[MITgcm-devel] Re: Large & Yeager 2004
Jean-Michel Campin
jmc at ocean.mit.edu
Tue Dec 19 09:35:14 EST 2006
Hi,
Just a comment:
On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 08:49:26AM +0100, Martin Losch wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> just to diversify this discussion:
>
> Yesterday I had a chat with our Arctic specialists (Gerdes, Koeberle,
> Kauker, Karcher), and they use bulk formulae by Parkinson and
> Washington (1970ies). Part of this is in pkg/seaice/
> seaice_budget_ocean/ice.F but only part of it. E.g. (they claim that)
> they don't use downward long wave radiation as an input field because
> the lw-fields are so bad in the Arctic, but instead estimate it from
> the bulk formulae (and I had a look at their code, they actually do
> that with some reference to SST). Apparently this is part of the
> AOMIP (Arctic Ocean Model Intercomparision Project). I find this hard
> to understand/believe, as I don't see how the ocean temperature has
> an influence on the LW-radiation emitted by the atmosphere. But maybe
> I am just narrow-minded? Andrea, you are my only hope of
> clarification ...
>
> Also they use dew point temperature and relative humidity instead of
> specific humidity. It's all so strange ...
>
I was thinking that the (downward) short-wave was also computed
(from a simple formulae + cloud cover) and not read from file.
And the way I understand it was that those people don't
trust too much the reanalysed radiative fluxes over the Arctic,
and recompute them all from SST, air temperature and cloud cover.
Jean-Michel
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